You know, the brilliance and worldly experience of the Obama administration just keeps reinforcing itself (pardon me while I lay the sarcasm on, even thicker) as U.S. National Security Advisor, James Jones, is all excited that he has reports that some elements of the Taliban are willing to disavow al Qaeda being in Afghanistan! Yay! Let's all just celebrate this amazing transformation and get ready to usher in decades of peace in Afghanistan!
From the report at DAWN:
Now, I don't begrudge someone for trying all angles to find a peaceful solution but for an official in the Obama administration to look this damn stupid, is beyond me. The thought of all of the young men and women we have lost in Afghanistan being cheapened by a fool hardy negotiation by an administration of amatuers simply boils my blood.
I have a better suggestion for Mr. Jones. Why don't you pull up your pants from down around your ankles, storm into your boss' office and tell him that it's time to win this fucking war. It's time you agree that our troops and those of NATO are the best in the world and if finally loosed to do their job, will decimate the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's time you give up your petty politics, reflect upon the victory our troops executed in Iraq and tell the country that you have confidence in them they can repeat it in Afghanistan. Remove the grounding order on our F-16's and AH-64's in Afghanistan, take the bridle off our troops on the ground and reinvigorate our special forces and I guarantee that we will see a Taliban fleeing that country.
But hey, if the Obama administration wants to buy into this Leftist, defeatest opinion that since the drunk, uninspired Russian troops of 20 years ago couldn't win in Afghanistan so we can't either, then we will get what we will get. The Taliban back in power, al Qaeda back in their training camps and more buildings coming down in America.
Oh, by the way, Mr. Jones....if I agree to "disavow" Rush Limbaugh, you will see that Barack Hussein Obama resigns? Hey, sign me up for it! :wink:
From the report at DAWN:
Elements within the Taliban appear willing to disavow Al Qaeda, says US National Security Adviser James Jones as the United States seeks an “acceptable end state” in Afghanistan.I only have one problem with our astute National Security Advisor's take on things here....that is.....the fricking Taliban ....ARE LYING! I mean, seriously, is this fool really that naive? I have a suggestion for Mr. Jones: pick up the damn phone and call your counterparts in Pakistan who tried about two dozen times to sign peace agreements deals with the Taliban in that country and ask those Pakistani officials how good the Taliban are at honoring their agreements or telling the truth. One phone call, Mr. Jones, is all it will take.
US officials also have indicated that the White House would accept a patchwork process in Afghanistan if it brings peace to the war-ravaged country.
The proposed process is expected to bring together elements of the Taliban and the Afghan government in a new arrangement for peace.
Those Taliban groups who sever their links to Al Qaeda and renounce violence will be allowed to form tribal police forces in the areas under their control.
Now, I don't begrudge someone for trying all angles to find a peaceful solution but for an official in the Obama administration to look this damn stupid, is beyond me. The thought of all of the young men and women we have lost in Afghanistan being cheapened by a fool hardy negotiation by an administration of amatuers simply boils my blood.
I have a better suggestion for Mr. Jones. Why don't you pull up your pants from down around your ankles, storm into your boss' office and tell him that it's time to win this fucking war. It's time you agree that our troops and those of NATO are the best in the world and if finally loosed to do their job, will decimate the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's time you give up your petty politics, reflect upon the victory our troops executed in Iraq and tell the country that you have confidence in them they can repeat it in Afghanistan. Remove the grounding order on our F-16's and AH-64's in Afghanistan, take the bridle off our troops on the ground and reinvigorate our special forces and I guarantee that we will see a Taliban fleeing that country.
But hey, if the Obama administration wants to buy into this Leftist, defeatest opinion that since the drunk, uninspired Russian troops of 20 years ago couldn't win in Afghanistan so we can't either, then we will get what we will get. The Taliban back in power, al Qaeda back in their training camps and more buildings coming down in America.
Oh, by the way, Mr. Jones....if I agree to "disavow" Rush Limbaugh, you will see that Barack Hussein Obama resigns? Hey, sign me up for it! :wink:
US seeks ‘acceptable end state’ in Afghanistan
WASHINGTON: Elements within the Taliban appear willing to disavow Al Qaeda, says US National Security Adviser James Jones as the United States seeks an “acceptable end state” in Afghanistan.
US officials also have indicated that the White House would accept a patchwork process in Afghanistan if it brings peace to the war-ravaged country.
The proposed process is expected to bring together elements of the Taliban and the Afghan government in a new arrangement for peace.
Those Taliban groups who sever their links to Al Qaeda and renounce violence will be allowed to form tribal police forces in the areas under their control.
Pakistan is expected to play a crucial role in brokering such a deal, although its favourite Taliban group – the Haqqani network – may be kept out of this arrangement.
In an interview to a Washington Post columnist after the publication of the Afghan war logs, Gen Jones noted that some Taliban might be willing to meet one US condition for talks, which is to disavow Al Qaeda. “The Taliban generally as a group has never signed on to the global Jihad business and doesn’t seem to have ambitions beyond its region,” he said.
Mr Jones praised the Pakistani military for stepping up its operations in the border region over the past 18 months, but he stressed: “There’s much more to do and not a lot of time to do it.”
The US media noted that the disclosure of the Afghan war logs by a whistleblowers site called Wikileaks came at a time when the Washington mood about Afghanistan was already darkening.
“Even hawkish officials have become increasingly concerned that success – even a minimal ‘C-plus’ version – may not be possible within a realistic time-frame,” the Post noted.
The leaked US military documents have created a new dilemma for the Obama administration by highlighting ISI’s alleged links to the Taliban.
Diplomatic observers in Washington say that now is when the Obama administration needs the Pakistani intelligence agency to broker “a patchwork deal” with some Taliban groups. But the leaks made it difficult for the US administration to hold such negotiations with the ISI, at least publicly.
The leaks also have made it difficult for Washington to balance its relations with India and Pakistan.
Apparently, the Indians want the US to thwart Pakistan’s efforts to expand its influence in Afghanistan but the Americans realise that the Pakistanis can only be pushed so far.
US scholars, while commenting on the Wikileaks papers, acknowledged that for Pakistan, Afghanistan was an area of fundamental strategic interest.
“It is irrational to expect the Pakistanis to halt collaboration with the force that they expect to be a major part of the government of Afghanistan when the United States leaves,” said George Friedman, founder of strategic think tank Stratfor.
“The Pakistanis never expected the United States to maintain a presence in Afghanistan permanently … they don’t expect the Taliban to be defeated … and are not interested in chaos in Afghanistan,” he noted. “It follows that they will maintain close relations with and support for the Taliban.”
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