tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1065080297476076227.post3119962946690286770..comments2024-02-02T08:20:16.068-08:00Comments on Holger Awakens: Obama Administration Throws Israel's Mossad Under the BusHolger Awakenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14728123335596054395noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1065080297476076227.post-55788015539135230432013-10-27T19:55:34.772-07:002013-10-27T19:55:34.772-07:00But history states otherwise. MI6 and Mossad have ...But history states otherwise. MI6 and Mossad have a history of collusion with American Intelligence in spying against fellow NATO allies. <br /><br />How can you be so sure that Mossad didn't aid the NSA? Or MI6 for that matter? <br /><br />Apparently Merkel's phone was tapped since 2002. Maybe it was Tenet's idea. <br /><br />Mossad certainly has shown its capabilities over time, but I doubt they can go toe-to-toe with the American Intelligence community. Mossad's feared long arm may work against its regional enemies but it will come up against a brick wall should it go up against U.S. Intelligence. <br /><br />Allied interests don't always correlate. So is it wise to offer blind support to an ally over the interests of your own nation? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02632686126415075420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1065080297476076227.post-91214976383782179452013-10-27T15:49:59.053-07:002013-10-27T15:49:59.053-07:00Barack Hussein Obama knows very well that when he ...Barack <i><b>Hussein</b></i> Obama knows very well that when he can he will be able to blame the Jews for his failures.<br /><br />Mossad didn't spy on the French. But Mossad has a long memory and a long arm.Findalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881549378886491540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1065080297476076227.post-7468910540155581882013-10-27T08:07:47.083-07:002013-10-27T08:07:47.083-07:00I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Mo...I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Mossad has been shown to have quite advanced intelligence procurement capabilities. They managed to record Kruschev's secret anti-Stalin speech in 1956. That's quite the achievement, getting past the KGB. <br /><br />In the 1990's Mossad was very actively involved in industrial espionage in Germany. In the late 1990s, the head of the BfV reportedly warned his department chiefs that Mossad remained a prime threat in stealing the country's latest computer secrets.<br /><br />So it's not exactly outside the realm of possibility that both Mossad and Britain's MI6 assisted the NSA in its eavesdropping program on France and Germany. <br /><br />Aren't you though an American yourself? You're hoping for Israel to damage America? I don't think being pro-Israel necessarily means wishing your own country's destruction because of one administrations' inability to keep its secrets intact(Snowden affair). And Merkel's phone has been tapped since 2002. Before she became chancellor and before Obama even got to the national spotlight. <br /><br />So I'd be more reserved in my judgements concerning this issue. NSA and Mossad both have a history of collusion in spying on allies. This new revelation seems to be more of the same. Though I don't see the interest of Mossad to spy on Israel's allies in Western Europe. As you mentioned tit-for-tat, Germany and France might just reveal some of Israel's dirty laundry. Don't be so pro-Israel that you become anti-American. Even allies have differences. What's good for Israel can be detrimental to America. And vice-versa. American and Israeli interests don't always correlate. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02632686126415075420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1065080297476076227.post-90487262995019309082013-10-27T05:06:02.200-07:002013-10-27T05:06:02.200-07:00NSA states canada Brit etc did not spy on France ...NSA states canada Brit etc did not spy on France because they told teh NSA they didnt. Sucg credible truth the NSA uses. Sack of shit lying Obvama sycophants<br /><br />Lets look at this a moment. America is curr4ently led by a president who regularly lies , throws ISrael under teh bus when its convenient. Now security establishments almost always follow teh same track as their leader Barak Hussein Obama who as we know gets his ambassador to benghazi killed and lies about it. It is not a far a stretch to have teh NSA lie about who was going after French communications. ISrael doe not have carnivore or prism or other telephone tapping or communication spying equipment to teh extent the NSA does. Angela merkel told US to stop spying on her. Which means she has teh goods on Washington. Now The NSA tries to misdirect and point teh finger of blame at ISrael. I dont think so. Obama is good for it but can not take another hit publicly. NSA did not come out and say ISrael did it, which is their version of plausible deniability. My Money is on those fuckers in NSA and CIA and other shadowy groups who have the method and means and motive to due such dishonorable things as spy on our allies. Not teh words dishonourable well folks for my two cents, Obama had to have okayed this the NSA already guilty of spying on everyone in teh USA , they no doubt spy on the Eu as well. Doom on Obama Double doom on teh NSA for pointing teh bone at ISrael who knows and understands quite clearly what such actions would mean if caught. But thanks Obama for allowing the NSA point the finger at ISrael another favour done to us. America used to be screwed under Obama. now it is absolutely fucked under Obama and as someone who supports ISrael, I hope America gets her come uppance. She deserves it. Don't get me wrong. 47$ voted Obama they deserve it the rest dont, but as long as he is teh leader, Doom on America. We need a Ronald Reagan a uniter , a leader, not this pussy assed piece of shit from Mecca Chicago.<br /><br />Now answer me this. Does any reasonable person see any reason now aws a result of this shit the NSA and teh administration is throwing out to the EU why ISrael should not spoy on teh US or perhaps drop a few of its dirty little secrets that it has covereed up for washington. A tit for tat might be what it takesThe Duhnmharuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04485389157996306020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1065080297476076227.post-36203653272015797202013-10-26T19:36:13.755-07:002013-10-26T19:36:13.755-07:00Maybe Israel should preserve what little goodwill ...Maybe Israel should preserve what little goodwill it has in the world and not participate in such espionage activities. Mossad has no business in France or Germany. Or any European country for that matter. Israel's threats do not emanate from Western Europe. Spying on your allies is action fraught with danger. If Mossad did indeed assist or cooperate with the NSA then they clearly haven't thought things through. What vital intelligence might Germany and France withhold from Israel in retaliation? Blowback!! You never know the actions suspicious allies might take after blatant violations of their sovereignty. It's like cheating on your faithful wife. Why do it? It'll only create more problems than you need or want. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02632686126415075420noreply@blogger.com